They felt just like it does when you experience an electrical shock from an appliance or plug. As low levels of GABA can trigger seizures, this hypothesis leaves open the possibility that the reported brain zaps are instances of brief, localized seizures. Common withdrawals: electric shock-like feelings, dizziness, your description is perfect zap,zap,zap....oh man...sometimes with a bad hangover I can clinch my jaw and get a zap...weird. Nonetheless, antidepressant withdrawal can be challenging. Since then I’ve weened myself of all medications except Effexor, I no longer have these electrical discharges in my brain. My problem started with Zoloft which was the first antidepressant I was prescribed but that one seemed to plateau after a few months do my doctor went with Effexor next. Wind from a fan suddenly hitting my face and anytime i touched water triggered this. The alcoholic brain decreases its long-term GABA production because it has learned to rely on alcohol for the same effect. I am just now researching brain zaps, so other than experiencing them I don’t know much. Our brains have an amazing capacity to heal! Overproduction becomes the brain's new normal. Gabapentin was pretty much the only relief I could get from it. I've tapered back down to 75 mg since my doctor was worried about potential dizziness while driving. Don't these drugs carry the strongest black box warning? I started having brain zaps as I'm trying to fall asleep. Does anyone know what it could be? Mine saved my life without any medication. Has anyone happened to them that alcohol alone caused them to have brain zaps? But there are other supplements that appear to stabilize the GABA levels in the brain (e.g., magnesium). 3 Unfortunately, there is no way … Learn more here. Serotonin levels: When a person drinks alcohol, serotonin levels in the brain significantly increase. I've been on Paxil for over ten years. Advice. Not to mention, I have slowly but surely packed on about 50 pounds since first starting this medicine in 2010. Glutamate has the opposite effect as GABA, making our brains … I know that alcohol can temporarily boost serotonin levels a bit, but that doesn't explain having brain zaps from it as it's the lack of it what usually causes it. These brain shocks go away once I start taking the Paxil again. It feels like a little tingle in my head. Making Behavioral Adjustments Use calming activities to reduce your stress levels. I experienced 2 things. If you need help getting safely of cymbalta..go to the facebook group cymbalta hurts worse. I don't know if I am building up an immunity to it? I have brain zaps and they turned out to be severe seizures undiagnosed and underlying brain cancer. My doctor said she hasn't heard of this before, and has been prescribing venlafaxine for a long time. Perhaps a difference in chemical/metabolic processing that's not as common? A massive electric sensation that shot from my brain stem through my body and "out" my finger and toe tips. But it appears to make people who are trying to wean themselves off of the drug feel that they have no choice but to continue taking the drug. Almost 14000 people helping one another. I tried a slough of different antidepressants as well as a couple of mood stabilizers and adhd meds afterwards. Brain zaps are one of the most obvious symptoms of this syndrome. It's pretty much a hellish nightmare, but I've learned to live with it. Effexor is a difficult one to discontinue because of the withdrawal effects. I nearly died last time. I believe it has helped me while I weaned from 40 mgs of Paxil to 5mg. how are you doing? I have shocks most often in the morning when I first wake. I hope that you are ok and that the zaps got better. I am replying to a post you made on Psych Today in regard to brain zaps. Have you had any weight gain problems on it? They are horrible. I've just weaned off recently. Think I’ve over done it with the alcohol over the new year period. No more head zaps.My anxiety was not very elevated so I meditate, or do light exercise, or yoga, or write and my anxiety diminishes. Brain zaps might also be triggered by alcohol use, anxiety or stress. Overall, more than half (56 percent) of people quitting antidepressants experience withdrawal symptoms. I've read stories of people who when trying to ween off of Effexor, went as far as counting individual "pellets" inside each capsule to slowly ween down and still had issues with severe withdrawal effects. The main serotonin receptor involved in the prevention of depression and anxiety is the 5-HT1 receptor. My doctor acted like I was insane when I mentioned them. Symptoms can range from mild to severe and can last for weeks, or longer. One reason against this hypothesis is that people who have low levels of serotonin in the brain usually do not suffer from brain zaps prior to taking SSRIs or SSNRIs (though there are reported exceptions.) I'm a zombie. I just wish it would go away. (I used to file a small fraction off each antidepressant tablet with a nail file rather than splitting to reduce it really slowly). When alcohol is removed from the system after it has become fine-tuned to function in its presence, the brain becomes overstimulated and must adjust back to its normal chemistry. In the past, while taking numerous medications, I sometimes would be awaken from my sleep due to a huge brain shock. Hi Lindsay, I just wanted to share with you that I too had the same experience as you have been in regards to brain zaps. Another things that would provoke them was walking through doorways. What Causes Brains Zaps? Interestingly, the zaps did seem to increase when tapering down. Seizures are the result of over-excitement in a small isolated group of neurons. I'm also cycling through other medications to help with depression. has it gotten better? The Causes of Brain Zaps. This article has helped me. but sometimes that can become annoying. It feels like a little prick on your finger, followed by a very fuzzy sensation. 30 mg almost 2.6 years...Many have found that fish oil is helping the brainzaps to stop and a very slow tapering as well. Brain zaps can cause some of the following symptoms and sensations: Sudden brain shivers, jolts or buzzes in the brain. None of these things hurt me, I actually enjoyed them but the electric shock through my body thing did trigger a rush that made me feel anxious but i liked it anyway. The nurse came out to see me and seen how depressed I was, so the doctor put me back on it in June I believe. This all happened in 2017. You're right about that, I even know that myself. So yes...this theory makes perfect sense. Sometimes brain zaps may also feel like blood rushing to the head. Sometimes the sensations extend to other parts of the body. I know exactly what you're talking about. I am currently weaning off Paxil for the third time (the first two times were due to pregnancy). Dr. Brogaard, Not looking forward to the next few days. So we cut my dosage in half and I am skipping a day or every other day beginning next week. Brain zaps are basically withdrawals they are not possible side effects (possible side effects occur when you start taking a medication, now, you may or may not experience them) which one experinces during discontinuation or dose reduction of antidepressants. That is when the brain zaps went from mild and annoying but not too bad to horrible full body jolts that would begin somewhere in the back of my head near my neck and travel all the way down my spine exiting from my feet. Hi Leigh L.: I have been cold turkey for 2 weeks now from Cymbalta and lYRICA and it is super hectic. I think it may also work for other types of antidepressant but I'm not 100% so you may need to google it. What you are describing could be your way of describing the 'brain zaps'. This will happen over and over all night long. I'm on day 4 and taking .25 mg of xanax, quite a few supplements and 900 mg gabapentin. I have had headaches at night for 10 years, I am forced to get out of bed around 4 a.m. this morning I realized the headaches are being caused by the shocks. I'm relieved to find out I am not alone. The brain does some interesting things during alcohol withdrawal. Upon drinking, the liver metabolizes the alcohol intake. Consider herbal supplements. I did them from 8am to the evening for seven days, pretty much every hour. We have a support group and brain zaps are a fairly common symptom as well, and I had them. I.have been speaking to everyone I can who has ever had to deal with these and have never heard of ANYONE having them after around the 2.5-3 month mark (after stopping the meds). I have been having "brain zaps" since I was a child (I was put on my first SSRI at 5) and they seemed to come at times where my adrenaline is increased. GABA is an inhibitor that calms neural activity in the brain. Even stronger than opioids? Was on and needed Venafaxine. Mainly because you seem to be the most recent to have posted i.e 2020. So I'm pretty convinced it is the drug for me, but my doctor was skeptical, thinking perhaps a coincidental injury or disc problem. This is an interesting hypothesis. I feel it is essential to confirm these patients are not having seizures. Always comes with any eye movements and worse if I push my eyes side to side. Breathing helps a lot. I'm back down to 75 mg now and still get some mild zaps, though I did not experience them at all when I first started Effexor at 75 mg before going up to 225, so that gives me hope that I can stay on my current dose. Nurses and Doctors would look at me like “wtf” when I would say this. Ever been shocked by your outlet when youre going to plug in a charger? When you drink alcohol, the fight or flight response in your brain is suppressed, making you feel relaxed. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. It definitely concerns, because I would estimate I have spoken to.......probably around 1,500-2,000 people in the 17 years I have been trying to make heads or tails of this in my own life. The other thing I experienced was like an extremely sudden brain shut down that was just as fast turning my brain back on. Hope you are doing well!!! I'm very glad as of your posting your brain zaps went away, but just wanted to post a heads up and a just in case because Effexor is what actually caused mine. One might then assume that supplements or drugs that increase the levels of GABA in the brain might help with brain zaps. I'm trying to stop taking a low dose of xanax, which I've been using only for sleep for about 7 years. I am currently getting off cymbalta and am getting the brain zaps. I just recently read that they may be little seizures caused because my brain wants more xanax than I'm giving it. I think it's helping, but in relation to joint pain and not the brain zaps. I understand how you describe this. Randal, I don't have experience with Venafaxine, but I run a group called Lyrica Survivors and many members have had brain zaps. Benzodiazepines—a group of drugs that provide immediate relief of anxiety—work directly on GABA, increasing its availability in the brain. While not studied specifically in terms of brain zaps, vitamin B 12, folate, and omega-3 fatty acids have supporting effects on the nervous system and are crucial for brain health maintenance. Help. Idk what to do about this condition This side-effect of SSRIs and SSNRIs is only rarely discussed in the medical literature. 2 years later i finally forgot to take my one a day paxil and had to work 9 hours before i could get home and take one. It's rather strange that there is so little research and talk about this. Other common names for brain zaps include: brain shivers, electrical shocks, and brain shocks. 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Some people feel like their whole head is affected, while others say only a small part of their brain feels like it’s involved. I didn't read about that until much after I'd already went through it or I may have tried that, but yeah. Any time that I missed the meds, or during the process of slow reduction, I experienced a woozy dizzy fog. I want to be free of xanax, even if that means I'm and insomniac....whatever it takes to stop the zaps. It's rather unpleasant. When I go off of it by the third day I start getting what I can only describe as a very high electrical shock in my brain that will immobilize me. For me too it definitely scales in intensity with the dose of the drug! I run a Facebook group called Lyrica Survivors and many members taking Lyrica and Gabapentin have reported brain zaps, either while taking it, when tapering too quickly, or if stopping cold turkey. If the GABA theory is right, then yes! I was able to slowly ween myself off SSRI's by taking choline supplements in the form of choline inositol for approx 4-6 weeks prior to slowly reducing the SSRI alongside the supplements. Light flashes included photophobia for me as well as vertigo. SSRIs and SSNRIs increase the active levels of serotonin in the brain by blocking the serotonin transporter. The withdrawal from these two drugs can be very similar to benzo and SSRI withdrawal. just off all the meds for 6 days now. Just wanted to let you know you are not alone! If anyone has any suggestions for helping with the brain zaps, please share! But i am starting a super low dosage of zoloft which i take in the PM. Doctor didn't warn me about this experience but I doubt he knew about it anyway (and I needed the anti-depressant anyway). Years of alcohol abuse can damage this area of the brain extensively, leading to a wide variety of issues including memory loss and the inability to think rationally. I am currently weening myself off of paxil, besides the unfortunate weight gain (30 lbs) I am beginning after these 2 years to feel like my anxiety is getting bad again. i am a combat veteran and i thought the zaps were firefight sounds - btw your page is the best one so far i have read that doesn't 'waffle around' terrified that if they use the word 'is' in the wrong place they will be sued frozen to be used as slaves in the future - sorry bad joke I was very impressed that paxil fixed my mental state so fast and well but, I was also afraid of what the consequences of taking paxil might be. Brain zaps also happen as a withdrawal symptom from antidepressants and these kinds of brain zaps are often worse and debilitating. So I endured them. They are getting better but are very annoying and kind of scary if you dont know what they are from. Healing After Lexapro Withdrawal Brain Zaps Through their research, neuroscientists tell us that the myelin that wraps and insulates nerve cells is made of fat and other components. I feel the same way about what you said, Tommy. As I understand it from another article i read - the reason for brain zaps/ SDS is the disruption of "acetylcholine" levels in the brain (which can be maintained/ increased during withdrawal by taking the supplement). share. The bottom line is, you don't have to worry about these symptoms, but they do require action before they can be eliminated. I.e. From all the drugs I've ever tried, only the neurotoxic serotonergic substances caused brain zaps for me. If you have any ideas based off my personal experiences with it, I'd love to hear them. I could feel it happening. This is the only reference I've been able to find to what I'm experiencing with venlafaxine! 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